"CAcoalminer" (CAcoalminer)
05/12/2016 at 19:48 • Filed to: None
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"CAcoalminer" (CAcoalminer)
05/12/2016 at 19:48 • Filed to: None | 6
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So, you know the saying, “You never realize you lost something good, until you see someone else enjoying it.” It’s unfortunately true.
random001
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 19:52 |
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Tell me more...
$kaycog
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 19:54 |
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Does that mean you no longer have your GT?
DanZman
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 19:59 |
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You can't leave us hanging like that...
Steve in Manhattan
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:02 |
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That happened to me with a high school girlfriend. She had another boyfriend within days. Hindsight is 20/20.
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CAcoalminer
> $kaycog
05/12/2016 at 20:08 |
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Yes, I sold both about 3 months ago and seeing these four today really made me regret my decision.
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$kaycog
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:11 |
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I’m sorry to hear that. Any chance that you will get another one?
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CAcoalminer
> random001
05/12/2016 at 20:12 |
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See my reply to $kay.
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CAcoalminer
> DanZman
05/12/2016 at 20:12 |
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I don’t believe that I am. The photo should tell you all you need to know.
JR1
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:14 |
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I am not in your position but if I was I can’t ever imagine selling a Ford GT. Whatever you have lined up to replace it better be really really great.
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CAcoalminer
> $kaycog
05/12/2016 at 20:15 |
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I appreciate that, $kay.
It is very likely that I get another one. There just really isn’t anything like one.
In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:20 |
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The new GT also?
Matt Nichelson
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:22 |
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What made you decide to sell them?
Brickman
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:23 |
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Why you sold it if you like it?
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CAcoalminer
> JR1
05/12/2016 at 20:25 |
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It’s nothing like that at all. My wife and I recently retired to our ranch in the hill country and I thought it would be a good idea to thin out our garage.
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CAcoalminer
> In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
05/12/2016 at 20:29 |
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I didn’t end up ordering the new GT. The lack of a manual and presence of turbos just didn’t excite me. I understand why they went with the dual clutch and ecoboost engine but am just not interested. Also, I’m a bit on the fence about the styling.
MLGCarGuy
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:29 |
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I’ve seen a couple GTs in person and they didn’t look so lavishly equipped inside. Does the driving experience make up for that (and is it why you miss yours)?
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CAcoalminer
> Brickman
05/12/2016 at 20:30 |
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My wife and I recently retired to our ranch in the hill country and I thought it would be a good idea to thin out our garage.
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DanZman
> Brickman
05/12/2016 at 20:30 |
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Just a guess, but they are worth a ton of money now.
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CAcoalminer
> Matt Nichelson
05/12/2016 at 20:31 |
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The fact that my wife and I were moving and I thought it would be best if I reduced the size of our garage.
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JR1
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:33 |
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Well as long as the remaining part of the herd is outstanding you'll get over the GT eventually. My grandpa just downsized too and sold his Corvette. I think he might be going through some sellers remorse as well.
Van Man, rocks the Man Van
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:34 |
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You have a Porsche 918, correct?
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CAcoalminer
> MLGCarGuy
05/12/2016 at 20:40 |
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If by lavishly equipped you mean that they are technology laden, then, no, they aren’t. The car is very simple. A radio, dials, air conditioning, and two seats. However, the interior is quite nice in my opinion in terms of materials. There is quite a bit of leather and the seats themselves are actually carbon fiber.
As for the driving experience, it truly is fantastic. The car is a great mix of very docile around town but thrilling on a challenging road or track.
The driving experience, memories that I experienced while with mine, and just the beautiful shape of it all probably contribute to why I miss mine.
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CAcoalminer
> JR1
05/12/2016 at 20:42 |
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The rest of my garage is decent.
What year was his Corvette?
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CAcoalminer
> Van Man, rocks the Man Van
05/12/2016 at 20:43 |
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Yes.
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Matt Nichelson
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:44 |
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Ah ok. As painful as I imagine that is, that is understandable. If you decide to get another one, will you consider the new one or look for one like you had?
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CAcoalminer
> Matt Nichelson
05/12/2016 at 20:47 |
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Definitely one like I had. I’ve no doubt the new GT will be incredible but it really doesn’t interest me from a buyer’s perspective.
CRider
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:48 |
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You sold your GTs!? And didn’t realize you had lost something good?
Tapas
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:49 |
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I feel the same way about the new GT. Not that I’m in a position to buy...
Have you driven/considered getting a McLaren F1? That seems to me like another analog car, but in different ways from the GT.
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CAcoalminer
> CRider
05/12/2016 at 20:49 |
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I am human.
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In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:51 |
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But it's a literal race car for the road!
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Van Man, rocks the Man Van
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 20:52 |
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Awesome. I saw a 918 in the flesh for the first time last week, and I must say they look very, very good. Just curious, what color and options do you have on yours? How are you liking it?
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CAcoalminer
> Tapas
05/12/2016 at 21:00 |
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I’d love to have an F1 but unfortunately the price is just a bit too much for me to swallow. I can semi rationalize cars costing a few million (I know that sounds pretentious) but when we start talking about $7 million plus for one vehicle, I lose interest. I just can’t justify spending what some people make in a lifetime on one vehicle.
That said, I would love to drive one some day just to experience it.
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CAcoalminer
> In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
05/12/2016 at 21:02 |
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I understand but I highly doubt it would hold a candle to the “race car for the road” driving experience of my old CGT.
scoob
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 21:09 |
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Did you ever make a post about it?
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CAcoalminer
> Van Man, rocks the Man Van
05/12/2016 at 21:18 |
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Thank you. I find it to be quite a good looking vehicle as well.
As far as options, the main ones I can think of off the top of my head are the Weissach Package, Martini Livery, carbon fiber interior package, and front axle lift system. I probably have a stitching option or two in there also.
So far, I’ve actually loved it. I was worried that being a hybrid, non-manual car that I would be disappointed in it and that the electronics would dominate the driving experience. Thankfully, Porsche did a wonderful job of having the electronics there but not forcing them on you. Honestly, I have no clue how the McLaren and Ferrari cope with 900+ hp and only rear wheel drive because the 918 absolutely rips at full throttle. The acceleration is quite literally like nothing else I’ve ever experienced!
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CAcoalminer
> scoob
05/12/2016 at 21:21 |
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I don’t think so. A few people like $kay, Brian, Mac, and Rusto all knew but I didn’t want to make an official post as I didn’t want to seem like the stereotypical “Hey look what I have” rich guy. I wanted everyone to get to know me as simply another car enthusiast.
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scoob
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 21:25 |
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That’s what I thought, understandable.
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Tapas
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 21:25 |
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Hot damn! 7 million plus? I thought they were hovering around 5 mil. Still not a small number, of course.
Have you considered going the replica route? There are some remarkable coach builders like Tempero and Lynx...
It may seem “cheap” to some people, but I don’t think I’ll ever own an original XKSS, a 250 GTO or a lightweight E Type in my life.
Even the replicas go for a few hundred grand, which I cant afford lol But I’d still drive them like they were meant to be driven at that price.
On the other hand - if I did get a chance of driving an original, I would baby the living Jeebus out of them out of fear of bankrupcy and/or have bouts of crippling anxiety.
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JR1
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 21:29 |
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With a Terlingua badge something tells me you have a few nice Fords sitting in the garage. Have you ever been?
And he had an 06. The silver made it look really clean going down the road. Nothing too special but it was a fun car.
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CAcoalminer
> Tapas
05/12/2016 at 21:38 |
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Some may still be around $5 million. It’s just that the last few that I’ve seen for sale were around $7 million.
I really haven’t but that seems like a great option for a lot of people, especially when you consider that those can actually be driven like you said.
That’s also one of my concerns. While I am fairly well off financially, I would constantly be worrying about anything happening to it and that would ruin it for me.
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CAcoalminer
> JR1
05/12/2016 at 22:00 |
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Actually, I don’t have any Fords in the garage right now. I just love the story of the Terlingua Racing Team and have always respected Carroll Shelby and his work.
Yes, I have been to Terlingua (I actually live in Texas) but, honestly, there isn’t much to see out there. It’s a nice place to stop if you’re on your way to Big Bend but definitely shouldn’t be something you go to exclusively, except for maybe the Chili weekend.
What is special is all in the eye of the beholder. I’m sure he loved it quite a lot.
V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 22:10 |
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Commendable
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CAcoalminer
> V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
05/12/2016 at 22:16 |
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Thank you.
I’ve always viewed my financial means as a way for me to purchase things that I can share with others rather than using them to portray myself as somehow superior.
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Tapas
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 22:20 |
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Ah gotcha.
But would you worry similarly about replicas too?
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CAcoalminer
> Tapas
05/12/2016 at 22:29 |
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No, it’s just that I’m not very interested in older vehicles. I prefer new vehicles and their amazing innovations.
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Tapas
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 22:34 |
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Fair enough! :)
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CAcoalminer
> Tapas
05/12/2016 at 22:41 |
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I guess I should explain that. I’m 73 and have been lucky enough to own or drive many of the classics that are so highly sought-after these days. All I can say is that, while they are beautiful and fun, they are a pain in the rear as far as maintenance. Unfortunately, due to their astronomical asking prices now-a-days, the maintenance bills of those classics is equally eye-watering.
I understand that replicas may banish some of the original car’s issues but at the same time, they also might take away the character of them.
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Tapas
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 22:50 |
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If you’ve already had a chance to experience them, that’s great :) Might as well move to cars you haven’t experienced.
The shiny new stuff is a bit easier to daily and drive hard as well.
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CAcoalminer
> Tapas
05/12/2016 at 23:05 |
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!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
My thoughts exactly. I love that modern sports cars have such amazing duel personalities.
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Matt Nichelson
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 23:10 |
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Yeah I saw you response to another person right after I sent it. I think it is a sign of the times. The days of the big engines are starting to become numbered, I feel.
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CAcoalminer
> Matt Nichelson
05/12/2016 at 23:24 |
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It really is a shame. I love technology, but nothing can ever truly replace the sound of something like an American V8.
Dusty Ventures
> CAcoalminer
05/12/2016 at 23:27 |
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This is why I like you
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CAcoalminer
> Dusty Ventures
05/12/2016 at 23:41 |
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I appreciate that, Dusty.
I don’t believe we’ve ever had the pleasure of sharing a conversation but I’ve always found your posts to be interesting and enjoyable.
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Dusty Ventures
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 00:07 |
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That’s a shame. I’ve got some proper nonsense coming out over the next few weeks, I feel bad knowing I’m about to shatter your generous image of me.
Seriously though, I think you’re right. We really haven’t interacted much, which is kind of surprising since we’ve both been around for a while. But I’ve definitely always considred you one of the best members here.
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CAcoalminer
> Dusty Ventures
05/13/2016 at 00:18 |
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You won’t be shattering my image of you.
Once again, I appreciate your kind words. I look forward to your posts and further discussions with you.
thatguy1
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 00:36 |
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If you ever think about getting one of the new GT’s I have hatched an idea that may be useful.
You know that application you have to fill out to get an opportunity to buy? Where it talks about your ford experience, supercar experience, social media stuff like that? Just answer “Screw Ferrari” for every question. Talk about how you hated that press cars were rigged, they catch on fire a bit more than comfortable, and you just hate Enzo’s stupid fucking face.
They like the cut of your jib and BAM The blue oval delivers on a silver platter.
PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 01:53 |
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I respect this so much about you. I still remember the conversation we had probably more than a year ago where you were telling me about stuff you own(ed at the time and in the past) and it was so refreshing to see someone with such a great collection be so open to talk about it in such a pleasant (and knowledgable) manner, especially when many people with cars of the same calibre can be, we’ll say, condescending.
I’ve only just seen the details on your 918, and it sounds a lot like one that’s running around the Dallas area, but since you say you’ve moved, I assume that isn’t you?
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JR1
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 08:34 |
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Really? That’s kinda disappointing but after reading Shelby’s biography I have always wanted to stop there.
I have always wanted to stop by Big Bend too. It is a goal of mine to hit ever national park in the country before I kick the bucket.
And yes he did love the Vette and he should it was a great car (although the battery always died).
I was just stating as far as Corvettes go it wasn’t something like a 62 roadster or 92 ZR1. Just your basic fun Corvette.
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CAcoalminer
> thatguy1
05/13/2016 at 09:03 |
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Haha that’s hilarious and actually might work because it would be unique.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 11:27 |
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Hope you find the right one to bring into your stable. Is it possible that one of the ones you let go could come back your way? The least you could do is ask for first right of refusal if they ever decide to sell.
I’m not sure if I mentioned this to you in earlier conversations, but my brother Joel is a CFA in Austin (part owner of a small firm), if you or any of your acquaintances could use his services or are looking for a new financial advisor. http://bellwm.com/our-austin-tex…
Love this quote he chose: “You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.” — C.S. Lewis
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/13/2016 at 18:27 |
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I appreciate the kind words, my friend.
If it’s a Martini liveried, Weissach packaged 918, then it’s probably me. One of my kids still live in Dallas so I’ve been up to visit her and I also get the 918 serviced up there.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 18:52 |
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With the guards red interior and number 1 on the side? If that’s you, we’ve actually spoken before in person!
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CAcoalminer
> JR1
05/13/2016 at 18:58 |
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Well, you can definitely fulfill both goals in a weekend.
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CAcoalminer
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
05/13/2016 at 19:01 |
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It’s quite possible as I know both owners quite well. That said, I know both have been loving the cars so it might be a while before either are willing to sell.
You hadn’t mentioned that. At this time, I’m very happy with my representation but will definitely keep him in mind if friends ever inquire.
That is a terrific quote!
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/13/2016 at 19:10 |
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Oh, then no. Mine is a black interior with acid green accents and no number. I do know the gentleman you are speaking of though. He gets his car serviced at Autobahn and is a big Ferrari collector.
Was he nice? I ask because sometimes he can be a bit abrasive.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 19:20 |
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I didn’t speak to him for long (big crowd) but he seemed nice enough. He actually was wearing a Ferrari hat at the time, which I thought was humorous as I had only seen him before with that 918 and with his orange 911 GT3 RS.
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/13/2016 at 20:19 |
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Yes, he is a bit miffed at Ferrari right now and that’s part of the reason he bought the 918.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/13/2016 at 22:25 |
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Life goal: be wealthy enough to buy a million dollar hypercar just to spite another manufacturer, lol.
That is an odd reason though, do you know why he's upset with them?
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/13/2016 at 23:46 |
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Haha. I’m sure if you keep working hard, you’ll get there sooner than you think.
He wasn’t asked if he wanted a LaF allocation even though he is a long time customer.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/14/2016 at 00:31 |
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Do you think that kind of tactic works on a company like Ferrari though? I mean it’s not like they’ll ever make a car like the LaF that they can't sell, so I can't imagine them being particularly upset that a customer that wasn't even offered a car went and bought something else...
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> CAcoalminer
05/14/2016 at 08:08 |
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Enjoy your weekend, my friend.
And, for now, “love the one you’re with” - hahaha!
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CAcoalminer
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
05/14/2016 at 09:25 |
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You too, my friend.
A truer statement has never been offered.
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/14/2016 at 09:58 |
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To some degree. He is decently well known in the Ferrari community so if he can convince others that Ferrari is only concerned with the new money clients rather than the ones who have stood by them for ages, then Ferrari might have a problem.
Not to be rude, but the Ferrari community is sort of cultish in that if you’re an owner, they will accept you right away and feel everyone who doesn’t own one is below them. So, if someone influential enough in the community can convince others that Ferrari has lost its way, issues might arise for corporate. Is it likely? Not really but it makes a great story for the Porsche fans.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/14/2016 at 13:03 |
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I always understood it that Ferrari only offered limited edition cars to people who were collecting the rest of their latest and greatest, so is it possible that despite what other cars he might own, his lack of interest in the newer models disqualified him from a LaF allocation?
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/14/2016 at 13:35 |
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There’s two ways you can gain admiration from Ferrari.
1. Have all of the previous “halo” models- 288 GTO, F40, F50, Enzo, and now LaF. In fact, I know of one individual who purchased the first four for the express purpose of getting a LaF allocation. In addition, one Ferrari dealer (I want to say Ferrari of Philadelphia) actually was offering a package deal of the first four for individuals who wanted to do the exact same thing.
2. Buy as many of the new cars as you can with the intent of eventually moving up the allocation list. A lot of individuals do this with the FF and California so that they can get more favorable positions for models like the 488GTB initially, then the inevitable 488 Speciale and 488 Speciale A. Then you can start getting on lists for things like the F12 TDF and, if you’re lucky, maybe even the LaF successor.
So, you can either spend a lot of money on old cars and get instant credibility or spent a lot of money over a bit longer time period and maybe get credibility. Either way, money talks. Does that make sense?
As for his lack of interest in the new models, I know he had a Speciale so it wasn’t like he hadn’t purchased anything of significance recently.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/14/2016 at 14:48 |
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Makes sense. I guess I just assumed Ferrari always preferred people who were buying lots of stuff new from them as that would be helping them make money more than someone buying older cars from auctions or dealerships or what-have-you. And I know that one LaF owner in the area (I’ve forgotten his name but the car is triple coat yellow with a black roof) seems to do just that, as he buys just about everything, so much so that Ferrari even let him buy an FXXK.
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/14/2016 at 15:24 |
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You’re forgetting though that Ferrari self limits their production so it isn’t really that they are looking to increase their new vehicle sales.
I assume you’re referring to Benjamin Sloss and his Giallo Tristrato LaF. If so, then, yes, he does like to always buy the latest, greatest cars.
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PushToStart
> CAcoalminer
05/14/2016 at 16:41 |
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This is true, and with that is the fact that they’ll never have issues selling anything they make!
It’s not Benjamin Sloss, this gentleman is a bit older. The man I’m referring to buys all his cars at Boardwalk and just recently had his tdf delivered in the same custom yellow color that his LaFerrari is painted in. He also has a black Speciale with silver stripes.
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CAcoalminer
> PushToStart
05/14/2016 at 17:07 |
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Interesting. I’ll have to ask around.